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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo
Toyota said every one of their cars will be electrified by 2025, so there’s one data point.
Even if they mean every new model introduced after 2025, that means this gen is the last ICE 86, maybe we’ll get a hybrid after that but it could just be the end of the model too.
Subaru isn’t selling the BRZ in Europe anymore, and Toyota said it’s only there for 2022 and 2023 model years. Euro 7 standards go into effect in 2025, which is likely the last standard before a zero emissions target is levied against all new cars. I’d expect car companies putting next to no effort into developing ICE cars starting ~now.
My guess is we won’t see new ICE models starting in 2025, and the existing ICE-only models in the lineup will disappear completely by ~2030. I think by then the only new ICE cars you’ll be able to buy will be boutique offerings like Porsche’s 911 which will come with a subscription plan for zero-emissions Porsche fuel.
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Technically Toyota didn't say they wouldn't have any pure ICE by 2025 only that they would introduce up to 70 new models of battery-electric, hydrogen fuel cell, and gas-electric hybrids by 2025, but as you say it's a data point. I'd agree that the GEN2 probably has a 5 to 8 year lifespan.
BTW, as an aside, when I read your post online I only see the first two paragraphs. Everything above starting with "Subaru isn't selling" is missing until I quote it. Very odd.
EDIT: Even odder, now that @
wbradley made a follow-up post your whole post is showing.
