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Old 10-01-2019, 02:23 PM   #150
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Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
I bought the same car three times and watched them get progressively worse each gen. I am not as optimistic as many here I am afraid.
Many of what people are asking for will make it heavier and unless they offset that weight gain with a proportional power increase then it will not be an improvement but just maintain the status quo. It would also be very, very unlikely that they can meet even a fraction of this wish list and keep the price in it's current range. The same people screaming for the biggest changes would just walk away when the price tag hits $45K+.
My biggest fear is that they will do what happened to the Eclipse, Celica, Z cars, etc where they turned their focus from the "enthusiast" (I hate using that word but it fits) to selling more of them to the general public. The general public doesn't have the same priorities that most here do and the model can be ruined in a hurry if they try to meet the majority's wishs.
I do kind of expect it to be marketed to a slightly more general public. Toyota investors are going to want their returns.

The only things I think the car really needs are the elimination of the torque dip (why was there one in the first place? Seems to be really easy to mod out if you're not bound by your racing build), Door checks that actually hold (as mentioned many times) and better sound quality. I think those are all achievable without investing too much money or adding too much weight (not talking about a huge sound improvement).

I think they're probably going to increase the weight (probably more sound deadening if nothing else, maybe as much as 3050 lbs [1400 kg]). They'll probably bump the power by 15-20 hp because that's generally what people expect from any generation change; but it will still be the FA20. Do we know what year it will be? I'm guessing 2022.

Doesn't matter for me though. I don't tend to buy new cars as I just don't have the budget for it.
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