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Originally Posted by Spuds
You actually don't need as many hydrogen stations as chargers for the same amount of cars. To fill an empty hydrogen car is what, 5 minutes? To fully charge a depleted battery on a supercharger is 90 minutes, up to 12 hours on 240, and if you only have a standard wall outlet up to 100 hours. You need 18x the amount of hydrogen stations in superchargers to service the same amount of vehicles.
42 hydrogen pumps (assuming 1 pump per station) is equivalent to 756 superchargers (assuming one plug per supercharger). How many pumps does the average hydrogen station in CA have?
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This is true for full charging, but this isn’t the typical behavior of most people who use Superchargers. Like Dadhawk said, the advantage goes to the EVs because people can charge at home. The average person drives 30 miles or less a day, which is within the means of recharging each night on a 120v system. If people use the 240v, 48amp Tesla wall charger then they can do a full charge overnight.
Most people using Superchargers aren’t needing a full charge from a depleted battery, nor are they fully charging the car. Maybe they have 15 minutes to kill, so they charge half a charge. And of course, it is getting faster and faster to charge these cars, but hydrogen charging is fixed.
Meanwhile, home charging is plentiful, Supercharging stations are plentiful, Superchargers at the Supercharging stations are plentiful. 3rd party fast chargers and slower destination chargers are even more plentiful. They are cheap to install, relatively speaking. Many cities are integrating chargers into malls and business parking structures. In short, the difference is stark.
San Diego has one hydrogen fuel station. How many gas stations? We have more gas stations in Sonoma County and maybe within a 15 mile radius than all hydrogen fuel stations in California. Currently it is estimated that California has 10,266 public fuel stations, so hydrogen has far to go. Meanwhile, there are over 16,320 Superchargers in California, many other fast chargers and over 50k level 2 chargers, not counting home chargers.
The other thing is hydrogen fuel stations are more expensive than charging stations, and they are investing more in charging than hydrogen. It’ll be good to have both, but it is clear hydrogen is in a huge deficit.
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The California Energy Commission is putting a “down payment” of $384 million over the next three years on the electric-vehicle charging and zero-emission vehicle infrastructure needed to meet Governor Gavin Newsom’s pledge to end sales of new gasoline-powered cars by 2035.
CEC’s clean transportation plan released Wednesday (PDF) will direct $133 million for light-duty EV charging systems and another $130 million for infrastructure for zero-emission medium- and heavy-duty vehicles, most of it electric charging.
Another $70 million will go toward hydrogen refueling infrastructure, with $25 million more for “zero- and near-zero carbon fuel production and supply” to meet the need for alternatives to battery-powered vehicles in the decades to come.
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