[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Red-86

If they still made swoopy, 3-door “coupe” style hot hatches (like the prior gen Megane RS, Astra VXR, or my fav, the Scirocco R etc) then they’d still be in contention for me vs a dedicated RWD sports car, even with FWD.

Alas, the 3-door hot hatches are virtually gone now in favour of uglier but more practical 5-door versions because the 3-doors sold in low volumes. I think the only 3-door hatch still available new (certainly in Oz) is the Mini Cooper. I can’t ever see a boxy 5-door hatch as a “sportscar” however quick it is. Many of today’s 5-door hot hatches are quicker than dedicated RWD sports cars like the MX-5, 86, or 370Z, but the hatches are still an appliance first and foremost. I feel similarly about the ‘super-SUVs’ that are so fast. Impressive numbers, but just not proper sportscars. Too big, too heavy, you sit far too high and they lack the style and road presence of a coupe.

Megane:

VXR:


Scirocco:

So a CTR and Focus RS are appliances?