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Old 09-04-2020, 12:52 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by racingfool View Post
My guess would be 44 years.
You're suggesting that higher grip tires are more forgiving at the limit?
I think the limit is just higher and novices are less likely to reach it.
Yes, I am saying that good extreme perf tires like RE71R, A052, etc. *are* quite forgiving at the limit, much more so than most passenger car tires.
I think that when novices *do* reach the limit on such tires, they are more likely to regain control vs. lesser-performing street tires.

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Remember the Hoosier bias ply "autocrossers"? Now those liked high slip angles.
Ha ha, my first couple/few track days with the 240Z back in the mid-90s were on Hoosier bias-plies! Interesting driving 90 miles to/from the track on those tires...
Either highest-performance street radials or radial Hoosiers since then.
For sure the max grip and also the post-sliding grip of the best track-oriented street tires improved pretty dramatically from the Z1 *spec on.
Last event I ran Hoosier A7s, first time I'd run Hoosiers since R3S03 days... I found the A7s to also be quite forgiving at the limit and not at all peaky in terms of non-sliding transitioning to sliding grip.
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