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Originally Posted by King Tut
I am surprised they haven't come out with a kit like they have for the S2000 if their BRZ/FR-S one doesn't work. The S2000 kit uses the standard Mocal thermostat and Setrab cooler:
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We didn't anticipate some of our track guys running the car in 100F weather on the track. On the east coast, you'll rarely see 100F ambient temps. The issue with the 86 has been with the limited frontal opening. The intercooler is already blocking the radiator. now adding in an oil cooler in front of that just takes away the cooling capacity of the radiator. That's why we didn't go with some gigantic tall intercooler for or setup. We designed our the intercooler for 500whp capacity but still leaving some room above the intercooler to allow some fresh air to flow between it and the bumper beam.
Mounting a conventional air/oil cooler in the fender well is an option but not everyone wants to cut out the side brake duct opening, remove factory fog lights, or cut out their fender liners. Removing/modifying the front bumper to allow more airflow to the radiator is an option, but most of our customer use their car on the street and they prefer not to modify or remove their bumper beam. So there's a handful of constraints we had to deal with in designing our oil cooler setup. We felt the best all around solution was a water/oil laminova cooler--no medication to the chassis, bumper, fender liners, bumper cover, etc. This setup allows the oil temp to get up to operating temperature quicker and in the east coast winter, the radiator thermostats help regulate the oil temp as well. But everything seems to come back to trying to get more airflow to the radiator to help with cooling the motor. The s2000 front end and 86 are so different. There's a huge space between the radiator and the intercooler on the s2000, where as on the 86 things are almost sandwich together. That is the reason why we did not carry over our s2000 setrab air/oil cooler setup to the 86 platform.
Now if we wanted to build an all-out track setup that could run in extreme track temps with high hp, we would be develop our v-mount setup with intercooler on top, radiator and your choice of size setrab oil cooler on the bottom. The design is already on paper, it's just a matter of us pulling the trigger to make it happen. Right now we're so busy building and shipping out our base frs/brz kit that we haven't had the time to prototype all the components for the "spec-RS" v-mount option since we don't feel there's a real demand for it at the moment. The v-mount setup will provide full airflow to both the radiator, intercooler, and oil cooler, and in addition it would allow us to design a true cold air intake system. However, cost will be a big factor.
Due to the placement of our turbo, this gives us an option for developing a racing v-mount setup in the future. The same goes for our s2000 turbo system. Now you know why we try to avoid placing a hot snail in the engine bay--heat is your enemy. If you can manage the heat properly, reliability goes up.
MrC