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Old 04-18-2021, 11:18 AM   #249
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I think I have heard of the packaging before. It's a great idea, but long lead times and short shelf life make it a hard sell for packaging except in very specific circumstances, and even then it's more a novelty than anything else. I think paper-based packing material (as opposed to styrofoam) is still a better solution at the end of the day.

I think I'm gonna stick to regular old bacon though.
I don't know. There are economies of scale and the long lead times wouldn't matter unless a supplier needed to continually vary their product like if all they supplied was popcorn packaging material or shapes for shipping a certain, mass-produced product then the lead time wouldn't matter, as long as there was a continual stream of production. There is definitely a lot to consider in terms of carbon footprint, recyclability, end of life, cost, water use, etc. Like some would say paper cups are worse than styrofoam cups from a water usage perspective or carbon footprint perspective, and they also can't be recycled like styrofoam, even if they biodegrade in 50 years versus 500 years. I've had products delivered using paper versus styrofoam, and it seems like it is much better, and it would definitely break down faster, but looks can be deceiving; that is what sucks. Here are some other alternatives. Hopefully, they aren't just smoke and mirrors.

https://www.lumi.com/blog/sustainabl...ging-materials

I think one of the big comparisons was water use comparing the mushrooms to the pig (1.25 gal vs 575 gal), and the cost per pound ($1 vs $5). I don't know if the 575 gal is just drinking water or if it includes water used in the production of feed, and I don't know if the cost is the cost to produce the pound of product or the cost to the consumer, or if it includes the cost of water and feed subsidies. Regardless, there is obviously a big difference in water usage, and I feel like water usage will eventually become even more of a talking point in the future, as it is a hot topic in places like California already.

While water is continually recycled in our water system, the supply of usable water could one day not keep up with the growing demand. We like to think of this world as a water world, but the surface is as thin as the peal on an apple and the water is only a very thin layer of wax on that peal, and while we have a lot of salt water, the potable water isn't great, so eat your bacon while you can I guess.



https://www.usgs.gov/special-topic/w...center_objects

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By 2020 about 30-40% of the world will have water scarcity, and according to the researchers, climate change can make this even worse.
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With only 7% of the world’s freshwater, China plans to produce 807 million gallons a day from desalination by 2020, roughly quadruple the country’s current capacity.
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By 2025, an estimated 1.8 billion people will live in areas plagued by water scarcity, with two-thirds of the world’s population living in water-stressed regions.
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There will be about 1 billion more mouths to feed worldwide by 2025 and global agriculture alone will require another 1 trillion cubic meters of water per year (equal to the annual flow of 20 Niles or 100 Colorado Rivers).
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UN studies project that 30 nations will be water scarce in 2025, up from 20 in 1990.
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According to the U.S. Intelligence Community Assessment of Global Water Security, by 2030 humanity’s “annual global water requirements” will exceed “current sustainable water supplies” by 40%.
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The global middle class will surge from 1.8 to 4.9 billion by 2030, which will result in a significant increase in freshwater consumption.
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Water demand in India will reach 1.5 trillion cubic meters in 2030 while India’s current water supply is only 740 billion cubic meters.
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If current usage trends don’t change, the world will have only 60 percent of the water it needs in 2030.
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By 2035, the world’s energy consumption will increase by 35 percent, which in turn will increase water use by 15 percent according to the International Energy Agency.
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By the year 2040 there will not be enough water in the world to quench the thirst of the world population and keep the current energy and power solutions going if we continue doing what we are doing today.
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The number of people living in river basins under severe water stress is projected to reach 3.9 billion by 2050, totaling over 40% of the world’s population.
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Compared to today, five times as much land is likely to be under “extreme drought” by 2050.
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Feeding 9 billion people by 2050, will require a 60 percent increase in agricultural production and a 15 percent increase in water withdrawals.
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Water demand is projected to grow by 55 percent by 2050 (including a 400-percent rise in manufacturing water demand).
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By 2050, 1 in 5 developing countries will face water shortages (UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization).
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Between 2050 and 2100, there is an 85 percent chance of a drought in the Central Plains and Southwestern United States lasting 35 years or more.
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If farmers in Kansas keep irrigating at present rates, 69 percent of the Ogallala Aquifer will be gone in 50 years.
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https://www.seametrics.com/blog/future-water/
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