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Originally Posted by DylanFRS
You said: "The fit and finish on the Subaru is far, far better than the FRS. No mismatched body panels, cheap interior feel, etc.." but then you are talking about how you "didn't care for the interior compared to the BRZ" That's not a "Fit and Finish" problem, that is an aesthetics problem of whether you like the painted silver or faux carbon fiber. Your jalopnik article proves nothing, just because Toyota made a release about the fit and finish on the FR-S and Subaru didn't make one about the BRZ doesn't mean they don't have the same problems. By saying the fit and finish is different implies that the two cars literally have different manufacturing planning and different employees putting them together... is this really what you believe?
Faster around a track isn't better. If you think faster around a track is better then you should have bought a Volkswagen GTI. You didn't so your argument is invalid.
Try to be like everyone else on here and provide some facts and sources instead of just spouting wild assumptions.
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If I wanted a FWD GTI hatchback I would have bought a FWD GTI hatchback. I wanted an RWD sports coupe to replace a 330Ci. That's the most asinine comparison I've ever heard on a car forum.
I had to choose between two cars I really wanted. I chose the one with the stiffer stock springs. And as for proof, I posted proof of everything I just claimed, and you provided nothing but conjecture.
By the way, the Jalopnik article linked directly back to this forum and numerous owners complaining about the body panels. But you'd know that if you did an ounce of homework. Stop challenging every thing someone says in a BRZ thread to validate your own reasoning in buying the car you did. If you prefer the FRS suspension for drifting or whatever then fine.
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Originally Posted by DylanFRS
To me, there is a difference between saying "I like blue" and "Blue is better than every other color". The latter is a statement saying that everyone that doesn't think blue is the best color is wrong. Saying "I prefer the suspension on the BRZ" is different than saying "The suspension on the BRZ is better".
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Track times don't lie. I doubt you can convince anyone in here that when one car beats another consistently (regardless by how much) on the track that they're just the same, or one isn't better. Subaru has a different tune. Period. And to them, it's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of performance. And yet you're just throwing your hands up in the air and calling everyone else ignorant group thinkers without providing an ounce of proof.
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Originally Posted by fatoni
way to be a ****. i wasnt trying to instigate or anything. i just didnt know if you meant that the spring rates were higher (which according to the post below, you are wrong) or if it was the dampers. the problem is that you used a really specific, quantitative number to describe a very vague, qualitative aspect of the car.
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Sorry about that, everything looks antagonistic when you're already arguing.
I meant the springs, was hammering out a response while getting pulled away from my desk. If I ever do replace them it'll be the last thing I do long after a turbo and all the accoutrements.