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The point was

Scion is bang for the buck, if it's 25k it's overpriced. If you want things like push start you're going to have to pay for it, it wont be standard. It's likely an accessory. If you want something like an 86 Wait for a Release series.

I was in IIRC with alot of people and everyone agrees with this statement Trip made.

yeah snoopy is right too, everyone is sick of the complainers and the FRS interior. Most are pretty happy with the car already, even the big magazine reviewers.