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TylerLieberman · 05-22-2013, 02:02 PM

So this past weekend there was an event in Mineral Wells. Had a lot of fun and learned a good amount about the car. I was also able to figure out what steps should be taken next in improving the car.

Threw the stock tires on the back to tear apart. The Michelin's are obviously not very good. The surface was a bit more harsh than I remember as well. After 5 runs, the tires already started chunking up a bit. The tires themselves are obviously not very grippy. Couple that with nearly -2 degrees of rear camber and the car's rear end doesn't feel very planted. It floats around a bit. So, before the next event, I'm going to roll out the rear fenders and pull out some of the camber so I have more contact and with better tires, more rear end grip. I'll end up going to somewhere between -1 and -0.5 degrees. Doing this will help in making the car feel more stable, more planted, and be a bit faster when the throttle is opened all the way.

Another thing to take into account is the steering angle-or lack of. It really doesn't have that much (compared to other car's I've drifted). Obviously, seeing how the steering components are stock, I can't expect crazy steering angle but some extra would be nice. Tie rods, rack spacers, and modified steering knuckles will help for sure. The front end felt great. I ran just under -4 degrees of camber and a tad bit of toe out. Turn-in and response was awesome. Just needs a little more steering angle in my opinion.

Next up is the big one: POWER. I came to the event with the assumption that the car was gonna get a beating just to keep the wheels spinning. I was definitely wrong! The car can be feathered on and off throttle through 2nd gear with ease. 3rd gear is where it get's interesting. My entry speeds were between 60-80mph and was running 3rd gear through the first corner. The problem is that the rpms were between 4-5k with the throttle hammered-which is where the torque dip is. I thought the car could easily use another 100hp from some type of forced induction, and sure, it could. It would be fun. But honestly, after driving it, I feel like an extra 30 or so hp and utilizing a new header and ecu setup to get that mid range torque back is what the car really needs. It would make the car 10x better and make it feel a lot more powerful.

There are a couple of small things I would like to change too eventually like thicker sway bars, a clutch type LSD over the torsen diff. The torsen diff works but the car would respond so much better with a proper 2 way diff. That's way down the road though. Other than that, I different bucket seat and deep dish steering wheel to make the driving position perfect for my liking.
The only real downside to the day was the passenger tire exploding and tearing a small hole in my cv boot. So, first thing to do is get that taken care of. Not a big deal, but it just goes to show and prove that if you wanna drift your new FR-S/BRZ (or any car). Be prepared for something to break or get damaged cause it WILL happen. Luckily, it isn't a big deal and is an easy fix.

To sum it all up, the car feels great. Great balance and great response. An alignment change, a bit more power and mid range torque will make the car even better. Can't wait to get back out there.

To do list:
CV Boot fix
Roll Fenders
Alignment
More Tires
Drive
More Tires
Drive

Down the road:
Header back exhaust
Drop In Filter
ECU Tune
Lightweight crank pulley
Bucket Seat
Steering Wheel
Sway Bars
2 Way Diff

05-22-2013, 02:02 PM	#19
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,686 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So this past weekend there was an event in Mineral Wells. Had a lot of fun and learned a good amount about the car. I was also able to figure out what steps should be taken next in improving the car. Threw the stock tires on the back to tear apart. The Michelin's are obviously not very good. The surface was a bit more harsh than I remember as well. After 5 runs, the tires already started chunking up a bit. The tires themselves are obviously not very grippy. Couple that with nearly -2 degrees of rear camber and the car's rear end doesn't feel very planted. It floats around a bit. So, before the next event, I'm going to roll out the rear fenders and pull out some of the camber so I have more contact and with better tires, more rear end grip. I'll end up going to somewhere between -1 and -0.5 degrees. Doing this will help in making the car feel more stable, more planted, and be a bit faster when the throttle is opened all the way. Another thing to take into account is the steering angle-or lack of. It really doesn't have that much (compared to other car's I've drifted). Obviously, seeing how the steering components are stock, I can't expect crazy steering angle but some extra would be nice. Tie rods, rack spacers, and modified steering knuckles will help for sure. The front end felt great. I ran just under -4 degrees of camber and a tad bit of toe out. Turn-in and response was awesome. Just needs a little more steering angle in my opinion. Next up is the big one: POWER. I came to the event with the assumption that the car was gonna get a beating just to keep the wheels spinning. I was definitely wrong! The car can be feathered on and off throttle through 2nd gear with ease. 3rd gear is where it get's interesting. My entry speeds were between 60-80mph and was running 3rd gear through the first corner. The problem is that the rpms were between 4-5k with the throttle hammered-which is where the torque dip is. I thought the car could easily use another 100hp from some type of forced induction, and sure, it could. It would be fun. But honestly, after driving it, I feel like an extra 30 or so hp and utilizing a new header and ecu setup to get that mid range torque back is what the car really needs. It would make the car 10x better and make it feel a lot more powerful. There are a couple of small things I would like to change too eventually like thicker sway bars, a clutch type LSD over the torsen diff. The torsen diff works but the car would respond so much better with a proper 2 way diff. That's way down the road though. Other than that, I different bucket seat and deep dish steering wheel to make the driving position perfect for my liking. The only real downside to the day was the passenger tire exploding and tearing a small hole in my cv boot. So, first thing to do is get that taken care of. Not a big deal, but it just goes to show and prove that if you wanna drift your new FR-S/BRZ (or any car). Be prepared for something to break or get damaged cause it WILL happen. Luckily, it isn't a big deal and is an easy fix. To sum it all up, the car feels great. Great balance and great response. An alignment change, a bit more power and mid range torque will make the car even better. Can't wait to get back out there. To do list: CV Boot fix Roll Fenders Alignment More Tires Drive More Tires Drive Down the road: Header back exhaust Drop In Filter ECU Tune Lightweight crank pulley Bucket Seat Steering Wheel Sway Bars 2 Way Diff __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)