Well I've heard of em but never owned a set, just wanted real experience with them. I mean there are well known wheels out there but people have terrible experiences. I've heard people with Volks breaking, or Grams even BBS shattering in certain conditions. But that's pretty common about all wheels nothing is super strong and never have any problems. In case of O.Z. I wanted to see if anyone had problems, If you think about it Wheels are big investments. Again just wanted real user input thanks for all of those that did