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Old 04-25-2013, 08:55 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by ft_sjo View Post
No doubt that Honda has reduced droop due to some crappy coilovers too.
Hardly, that car (and driver) has the FWD lap record at a local track for both street and unlimited classes (and is fully streetable minus slicks when run in unlimited). At that point it had too soft of spring rates for the weight of the car and amount of grip it generates, but they definitely weren't crappy coilovers. Nice blanket statement though

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You can't make blanket statements when it comes to handling. Even the suspension engineers are OEM's and race teams need to do testing, even with complex simulation on a computer.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across, you appear to be arguing with blanket statements, where i've clearly explained there is more than just black and white. Hopefully some people reading this will realise it's the grey area that counts.
Absolutely, but my point all along is that people shouldn't just throw a stiff rear bar on these cars without having lots of testing data to support that it needs it (which it won't, ever). Too many people are used to FWD cars which need a big rear bar to be fast and assume a neutral RWD car will behave the same. I don't need tons of testing to know that adding nothing but a stiffer rear bar will do nothing but make the car slower and scarier to drive.
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