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Originally Posted by Turbowned
All the FR-S needs is better tires to become "the better car" in brit boy's logic.
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Originally Posted by mad_sb
FR-S still had the stock prius tires... the gti comes with better and wider stock tires.... equal tires the FR-S would have had a better lap time.
My good friend owns a gti with suspension work (shocks, springs, sways, alignment), reflash, intake, etc... he drove my FR-S with 225 AD08's on it and said it had WAY more grip and much nicer handling than his gti. His GTI would walk me in the straights but in the corners it was no contest.
I have to agree the GTI is a better (well, lets say more practical) daily driver... my buddy can fit his road bike in the hatch without taking off the front wheel (he is 6' tall so it's not a tiny frame). Even so, if he did not have 2 young children he would have gotten an FR-S or BRZ.
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Originally Posted by CBR600RR
they should have put the same tires on all three cars. I would bet money that the FR-S had the hardest tires.
give all the cars the same tires and I bet the FR-S would be on top.
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Originally Posted by vtmike
I think toyota and subaru really made a mistake not offering the twins with a high performance summer tire option. How many times have we seen this that an inferior car with better tires runs a faster lap time.
It's already been shown that the twins are significantly quicker with better rubber even in the stock size (quicker than mazdaspeed3 and wrx)
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Saying it's the tires is the worst excuse ever. My case in point? SRT's Ralph Gilles was not happy when the new Viper lost to the Corvette ZR1 in Motor Trends comparison. The ZR1 actually beat the ACR's record for fastest car around Laguna Seca during this comparison. Ralph accused GM of sending a "ringer" but MT pointed out they were almost identical in power and weight. He then complained about tires, the ZR1 had better tires, MT said they didn't think it was the tires.
So Ralph made the TA (Time Attack) package for the Viper. He kept the original tires and only tweaked the aero, brakes, and suspension. The Viper TA ended up beating the ZR1 on the "rematch".
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R: Corvette beat Viper in Motor Trend test. Viper came back with same tires after saying the tires were what did it in. Viper won rematch with same tires and tweaks to aero, brakes and suspension only.
Tires are not an excuse.
Here's the article:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...a/viewall.html
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Originally Posted by Dorb
Factor in the GTI is just ugly. Believe me, drive that in town it will go unnoticed. No one will care you will just fit in. If that is what you want... For some reason. Lol.
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"Sleeper car" all I'm going to say.
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Originally Posted by strat61caster
Well this devolved as expected.
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Pretty much, yeah lol.