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Originally Posted by PuGZoR
Sorry dude, pretty sure you're quite wrong here. Toyota has made air-water intercoolers before and probably still does, but I don't think they've ever been integrated into the supercharger unit itself. Integrating the intercooler into the supercharger would make the unit bigger (and less modular), and there really wouldn't be too much benefit from there as opposed to top mounting it.
On a completely different note, how funny would it be if they went back to the Ogura Clutch superchargers that they had back on the 4A and 1G engines? SC12 and SC14 I believe. They were huge, heavy clutch driven superchargers.
I think I see Tada-san's point of view. In it's base form, they want to make this car fun through corners, not necessarily in a straight line, but they want to keep it cheap too. The best way to do that is to forget about forced induction. Most cars, from factory When you've got a turbo you've got to re-engineer everything because of the additional heat that they generate in the engine bay, on top of everything that comes with extra power and fuel requirements. Sure people do this in the aftermarket, but Toyota is a pretty responsible manufacturer and need to think about reliability first (which is their claim to fame, and why their vanilla cars still do so well).
A low boost supercharger seems like a good way to go though, if they are actually considering this seriously. Only 6-9PSI would provide a bit of extra life throughout the whole rev range without sacrificing that quickness through the corners. Furthermore, they can get away with a small top-mount intercooler or leave it out completely if they really want.
I'll shake my head when I see people doing huge turbo conversions to this car, that only kick into boost around 4000-4500RPM. Completely missing the point of the car, there's plenty of other cars that would have been a better choice.
I totally get all the guys who've gone from high-HP cars and would be happy with this car staying N/A. I've had a turbo MR2, twin turbo JZS147, and a whole heap of other cars, but I had an absolute ball with a KE70 panel van. It probably had about 60hp on a cold day. If I had my time again I probably would have kept my AE86 project as N/A for simplicity.
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very informative...your the second guy that said this point on
you seem to know what your saying..anyway if you were to choose
what would you get?
adding a little boost would not be bad right? so it be toyota?
i plan to use this as DD and track