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Old 04-22-2013, 02:07 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Mikem53 View Post
Depends on the feel you want.. If you're looking for refinement, smoothness and isolation.. get a lexus. or a middle of the road Honda.
If your goal is lightweight, cost, balance..then you get an FRS/BRZ without the frills and with more NVH..
I have owned many Hondas.. they are great cars and Honda makes some of the finest engines on the planet.. They use some clever techniques to refine their engines.. balance shafts, larger crank counterweights, hydraulic motor mounts. All these reduce power, add weight and cost.. yes mounts do account for a power loss.. as the engine moves about instead of transferring its power.. but you dont feel the NVH as much..
Everything is a trade off.. You want handling, response and nimbleness..
its hard to beat the twins.. especially at its price point.. but dont expect a lot of refinement or sub systems designed to reduce NVH.. Thats just not a priority of these cars.. and most appreciate that aspect of the car.. You get real feedback... un-muted
Except for the Honda k20z3 puts down more power to the wheels than this Subaru boxer. I don't disagree with you about the twins having amazing handling and price, but Honda makes the best small motors on the planet, so it was a bit of shock getting into the FRS and noticing just how far ahead Honda was with its engine technology.

And I'm coming from an 06 Civic Si, it's not like I want to drive a luxury car. I'm just saying that Honda motors feel a lot better to thrash around than this boxer ever will.
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