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Originally Posted by EarlQHan
The M3 is a street car, the Koenigsegg is also a street car, but point taken.
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the m3 has a rollbar so its not really a street car since thats not really safe without the helmet and proper restraints. as for the koenigsegg, yeah its a street car but more importantly its a koenigsegg. either way, those were all those cars looked functional but also cool.
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Originally Posted by coyote
That same crash? Possibly not.
Would that tool have crashed somewhere else? Almost certainly.
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im not trying to give the driver any credit. im just pointing out that the cars suspension looks to be a huge part of why that crash happened.
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Originally Posted by Outlawstar98
Really? Ive seen this happen to many o' jacka$$es in stock cars.... it is the crappy driver not the suspension. Also everyone with the stock BRZ/FRS should replace those tires on the stock wheel because they have no grip, that is also a safety issue. I am running -2 in the rear with a 245 tire right now and I get more grip. It is a "flush" setup so not crazy camber but most issues with crashes, 99.9% i'd honestly say are due to the DRIVER and not the car, if you look in that video that guy was driving like a a$$.

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im not saying that low grip is going to be dangerous. its not provided that you are aware of it and drive accordingly. the problem is that cars arent engineered to be used in this manner and because of that the levels of grip change dramatically and without warning.
your numbers dont really tell us anything meaningful since the majority of cars are "safe." i would expect that the majority of crashes arent from issues the majority of cars dont have. more people die from getting out of bed than they do from shark attacks. do i believe that beds are more dangerous than sharks? no.