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Originally Posted by Outlawstar98
Unsafe cars? I saw more broke down built cars than stanced cars. Hell I had a friends transmission fall out of his car once. Also stanced cars are easy to take care of. My friend chris which has this car:

drives it daily and works on it (not due to issues just changing settings) almost every weekend. And even with track cars (which chris there has a turbo'd MX6 in that garage behind it) you still avoid any road bumps, Hell I do in my BRZ and it is set up for track right now. (and I do tend to drive like a **** when I know the road is good.... lol)
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To add he does drive that Mazda3 hard... You should see Him and I when we curse to meets.... hahaha
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breaking down isnt what i mean by dangerous. being slammed or not has no bearing on the mechanical drivetrain of the car (well other than dinged up oil pans or whatever). if you are trying to show me that race cars are unreliable, i get it. if you are trying to make me believe that "stanced" cars are somehow more reliable than a car not stanced, you cant.
also, sweet name.
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Originally Posted by Siberian Husky
The FRS is such a unique car at its price-point, it's obviously purpose built and it drives this concept home in every way possible. I can't help but feel like this forum and the community is turning into a bunch of snobby assholes.
You own a car with "beautiful" balance, with its unique chassi, low center of gravity, boxer engine choice, limited slip differential, responsive throttle and steering, etc. All of a sudden because you own a vehicle with these qualities it makes you an authority on what it means to be track-purposed and not.
I have seen so many threads made by new owners wanting to modify their car but are afraid of "upsetting the balance."
Will a staggered setup upset the balance?
Will the weight of a turbo set up upset the balance?
How much neg camber can I run without upsetting balance?
I have never seen so many e-bench racers in my life. Stance is nothing new on cars. I think some of the stance/hellaflush setups look great, and others look bad and unsafe. There are varying degrees of good and bad in everything. What really bothers me is how fake a lot of people on this forum come off being. All of a sudden because they own an affordable purpose built machine, it is in their plans to track the car and so purchases and modifications must be done accordingly. Bullshit.
The majority of us will use the car to commute in, pick up groceries in, and we will occasionally take it sideways on some quiet bend when no one is looking. 85-95 was the golden era of japanese rwd cars, just because the FRS/BRZ/GT-86 is the only one of its kind on the market [right now] does not make it this illustrious work of art that gets destroyed cause someone wants to dump it and hard park at their local Krispy Kreme on Thursday nights. I just wish everyone would stop pretending like they are track-bound enthusiasts and just let others do whatever the fuck they want without this unwarranted criticisms. It's one thing to say something is ugly and you don't like it or don't agree with its functions, but please stop with the dogmatic bullshit about destroying the purity that is the FRS foundation.
By the way, for you function>form philosophers. Extreme negative camber makes a car easier to drift, a pastime this car is renowned for.
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extreme negative camber doesnt make it easier to drift. it makes it easier to break traction. they are different. in fact a static rear camber makes it easier (whatever you mean by that) to drift because you arent having to deal with dynamic camber changing the levels of grip back there. its the reason a car like the ae86 is pretty legendary for drifting while the miata, which is similar in many dimension, isnt even on the drifting map.