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Originally Posted by Zaku
This has gone on long enough and I with held for three threads. I've been around long enough and put up with more forum stuff that most of you here, since I had a hate thread calling me out for the "BRZ not existing" In 09 because Subaru will never make something not 4wd so Spare me. when I post something once In a while like this I hope it will shed some light on stupidity.
So much hate and sexist comments for something that's good. Last time I check Women own FRS too.
I don't think Toyota cares how much of these end up in the hand of a HS girl, or a college girl or girls in general ( I hope women would purchase and support the 86)and I for one if I purchase one don't care cause I'm confident enough in my masculinity to not judge a car by looking under it to see if it has balls. Open top isn't that bad of an experience, otherwise every Miata is stupid, every spyder in history is stupid, the S2000 is stupid. And trust me last time I check most S2k are owned by Men and most of those Owners have moved on to FRS many waiting on open top to keep their s2k experience mind you.
Most People aren't gonna buy this for track or even performance( LIKE MOST PEOPLE WHO BUY THIS CAR PERIOD(Coupe FRS included),The open concept I think of it as the Corolla that sells to fund your coupe like the Levin that was the bulk of AE86 sales. I hate to burst your bubble but it's not the best track car(stock), I guarantee you it wont wins you that many podium stock but you'll have a heck of a good time in it. ( thats the point actually to have a good time) And this Open top will give you that same good time. If you've ever driven an open top car in a performance setting you'll have fun all the same specially this car.
Heck most of you didn't buy your FRS for track, About 80% will never drift your cars, autoX it, or track it. So the 80% that's hating on this because it's not track worthy is totally utterly whining for no reason and I guarantee most of you just bought it so you have something nice to DD in and don't argue with me on this I'm totally right. If I started a poll right now to how many FRS here has race on a track or an Auto X and I ask you to prove it. I bet it be like 20 people.
Stop with the stupid sexist comments, look at a bigger picture. If Toyota has more of these sold you might I dunno Scion Might give you standard push start and HID and some other goodies that are on the Open top Standard when it comes out.
it's a win situation. The more stupid comments there is on the forums the more it's unlikely well ever get anything nice, They watch social media everyone they have people hired just to keep watch, if Europe get it and we don't I'm gonna say it's our fault we're stuck with this Mono Spec FRS that isn't gonna change because no one cares for anything else but the current FRS.
so stop it!, those University girls are much more mature looking driving a convertible, than a bunch of 20 some year old Coupe driving men trying to act Macho on the internet with " ohhh it's bad with out a roof, because it's bad on a track reasoning" When they don't even track their coupe.( ok I admit I'm there too but still I know when not to do it)
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I'll stand behind my comments as I don't consider them to be sexist but rather factual.
That being said, I do think you make some good points with the primary one being that the more variants of the car, the better for all. And while I agree that the manufacturers monitor forums, I'm not convinced that a few people (in the grand scheme of things) not liking a particular variant is going to cause major problems. We are after-all entitled to our opinions.
Personally, I don't prefer convertibles. That's coming from someone who has owned two AP1s and an AP2 -- all highly modified. I finally went with a hardtop but that doesn't count the same as a coupe. And I feel that the FRS/BRZ definitely looks better as a coupe than a convertible.
I'm not going to debate how many people track these cars -- or not. My guess is a fair amount but clearly not the majority... Just like I don't get into the whole form over function debate. Regardless on both topics, it's an enthusiast car which is my attraction to it.
And I don't fall into your 20 something demographics that you describe in your post. Far from it actually...
All of that being said, if the comments in this thread got you this fired-up, I can only imagine what the proposed "rain tax" in MD did to your blood pressure!
I'm from MD and consider it home so I feel the pain... :happy0180: