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Originally Posted by deejaytnk
I totally understand how you are explaining how the company start the car shit stock and give options so they can broaden their consumer market, because old grandma might not want the $100 aluminum TRD shift knob.
My argument is not on the accessories that can be replaced and interchange without labor or technical assistance. My arguement is that they change the complete layout of the center console which is probably (if it is) a $2000 option upgrade if that center console is switch to the 86 style. Another gripe I have is the tacky red patch on the top corner of the seat. This is an easy replacement, and again if changed to leather or trendy fabric with red stitching, another $2500-$3000 upgrade. You also forgetting the over-priced labor charges to go along with the install.
If these options were as standard or different trims packages. The labor charge are a buried in the manufacturing cost of the car once the car rolls into the dealership and invoiced.
Those stupid options are dealership money maker! I DONT WANT TO PAY THEM, DO YOU???!!!
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They're going to be a rip off as a standard option, so I don't see the difference there...
You're expecting red stitching on seats to come free, well it makes sense if that's the only way they come they won't charge for it but no... Because red stitching is going to cost the .05 more / foot, they will charge the consumer...
The price of the vehicle will go up...
It's all give and take...
For the seats that cost $2000, yes it's a hefty price, but it's the price you pay for exactly what you want... Not something you're going to pay $500 for and still have to compromise on the way it looks... If you just want red stitching, you can have someone reupholster your seats for WAY less than $500...
Do I want to pay for stuff, I most certainly do not... However being a salesperson, I know what value is and I try to sale it everyday... The way the car is made now is the best value...
The car might not live up to your expectations, but if they made the car more expensive to start, and it still don't fit your expectations, which of the two scenarios do you think you're better off in? They might stitch the seats red, but how about if they also stitched a big giant Scion logo on there too? Maybe that's not your cup of tea, but hey all that stitching just raised the car's price $500...
See where I'm going?
It might not be in your best interest to buy a car watered down, but it'll be in your worst interest to buy an inflated car you still don't like...
P.S. We do not know what is stock or not, so really you have no real info to even make judgement on what you don't like on the car yet...