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Originally Posted by naikaidriver
You're the one who's yelling as is your usual fashion around here as is the uselessness of the content of your posts.
I suggest you re-read everything I have said and what zaptorque said.
I'm done with this thread.
Scott
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How is my content useless? Ive given you times of actual experience and what have you given? You wiping the floor with a S2000?
What if I told you Moto-P would say the same thing? He has an auto. He is more experienced than practically everyone on this forum and then some. His auto was still slower on the tracks hes been to vs the manual. I dont know how much more you want than that. Ive even got PMs from him explaining why.
There are threads here that show the same trend over and over.
And Im sorry, but if me saying that I drove an auto FR-S vs a manual on the 1/4 mile AFTER I stripped it bare in the back (lost 4 tenths of a second off previous time doing so, was a 16.7) and still lost to a manual who ran a 15.5 is not a valid means of further proving a point that has been talked about on this forum since these cars startd going to the quarter mile then I dont know what is.
Regardless, the manual is faster because it can launch at a higher RPM outside of the torque dip and is therefore faster in the 1/4 mile. Meanwhile the gearing of the manual helps it out even more. Moto-P finished I believe 1:16 slower than a fellow manual FR-S on the same track same conditions.
Pretty valid comparison. Same track, same car, different transmissions and Moto-P would wipe your face on the asphalt and then run you over after. Most likely any other "experienced" driver as well.
All you can give me is I wiped the floor with an S2000. What is more useless? I can give you I kept up with old school Porches easily in the corners. But it is not a direct comparison to the same car.
What is so hard to understand?
I have agreed with you about the gearing and the fact that the auto cant launch. I have agreed with the difference in experience being a factor for manual vs auto. It is relevant.
Where is your proof that I am wrong?
*edit* I hate when I cant pull up PM's for reference. I must have deleted them months ago :p Maybe Moto will chime in.