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Old 11-28-2011, 11:23 AM   #17
Buggy51
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$500. The Purchase agreement stipulates that it's for MSRP, is contingent on test drive, and the deposit is refundable. I've never paid MSRP for a car before (nor have I pre-ordered one), but I'm making an exception for the Toyobaru.
Ah interesting, though if this is for Scion, wouldn't it always be MSRP? I'll swing by Subaru and see if anything is stated there.


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Most people that can't swing $1000-2000 for a cheap beater (that can be sold after 6 months without much of a loss) shouldn't be buying a new car. My intention isn't to judge as I don't know your situation, but new cars are huge money pits and if it were me I'd make sure I was getting exactly what I wanted. Search various auto enthusiast forums and you'll find posts by people that purchased an AT because they couldn't drive stick and later regretted it.
No, the problem is not the inability to afford a beater. I currently do not have the time to actively look at them. Though a question to you guys is, what do you consider as an auto enthusiast? I'm quite content just taking a car and just driving off somewhere to explore a city or a town. I don't plan to track. Also, I do live in SF and its not the most ... friendly place to start without any help from family or friends--baptism by fire sounds... less than ideal.



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I wouldn't put much stock in stereotypes; make some calls and get estimates.
Fair enough



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Actually, that's a good point. I taught my brother to drive stick on a G27 playing GT5. 30 minutes of that plus 15 minutes in my MX5, and he was doing it quite smoothly.


But I still suggest getting a beater to learn thoroughly on (before buying a brand new MT). Or at least get some real wheel time in a friend's car after learning on the simulator.

Anyway, good luck Buggy51.
As stated before, none of my friends (close, don't know about others) drive a manual car so I'm essentially out of luck there. You had yourself there to teach your brother and well, I'm glad you were able to.

And I really don't want to delve into another auto vs. mt but since this is ft86club and nothing stays on topic :P Why do you guys think the auto is absolutely terrible? I haven't heard things that were truly horrific about the ISF's transmission.
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