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I had a decent experience buying my BRZ...When I have studied the car and it's competitors I don't bother dicsussing it with them, I'm there to test and price.
Wife and I are in the process of upgrading our Harley though and man can those sales guys lie...everything from the height to w hich items are upgraded to the mileage on the used bikes. We actually took one out for a test drive THAT WAS SOLD to someone else, which they informed us when we got back...oh sucks to be that person.
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