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Old 11-22-2011, 08:32 PM   #398
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Originally Posted by Deslock View Post
300 lbf*ft wtq would be an epic fail with any car.
WTF?
In 1st gear, the gutless AP1 S2000 (curb weight ~2800 lbs) makes ~1900-2200 lbf*ft wtq.

In 1st gear, my lowly stock NB (curb weight ~2300 lbs) makes ~1200-1400 lbf*ft wtq. Even in 5th, it makes more than 300 lbf*ft wtq.

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But you guys should know what we mean when we say 300 wtq. We are talking dyno numbers not the multiplied amount which we all know is a lot more than 300 wtq depending on gearing in which the GC has good gearing.
Why write wtq if you don't mean wheel torque? It's not safe to assume that everyone understands that a dyno doesn't show wheel torque.

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Originally Posted by Ryephile View Post
If you want to be technically precise, you'll post a graph of "torque to the contact patches" versus speed. Going further, you would factor in vehicle weight and aero drag and calculate the acceleration g-force curve versus speed.
And traction, temperature, altitude, road gradient, etc. But this isn't about being technical or precise so much as about not misusing terms.

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You speaking for yourself. I have come to look past drivetrain. A fast car is a fast car, I can care less which wheels drive it.
I have fond memories of my CRX Si, and cars like the MCS can be amusing. But I see no reason to suffer with FWD.

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I am already over the 300lbft wtq and plan to make another 100 or so.
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