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Originally Posted by Dimman
Unfortunately I don't think you will get anywhere with this.
Reading through the description they only identify the tips as 304 stainless, and the main piping as just stainless. This is a legal, but unethical technique for companies that use 4xx stainless in their products. It is common with manufacturers of domestic vehicle systems such as Dynomax, Flowmaster and Magnaflow to use inferior 4xx stainless. But out of these 3 companies, only Flowmaster is up front about using 409 stainless, the rest just use 'stainless steel', banking on the well known reputation of the better 304 stainless to lead customers to assume that is what they use. They don't.
This looks to be the same situation, but adding to the (legal?) deception by naming the tip-only material as 304 to further encourage the customers' assumption. Pricing it on par with true 304 systems reinforces this even more as well as increases profits from using cheaper material.
This is, in my opinion, 100% wrong and no different than outright lying about a product from an ethical point of view.
However, I am not a lawyer and this may actually be 100% legally acceptable. And given how business law seems to be geared towards shafting the consumers, you are probably out the money.
Advertising needs stronger transparency laws.
But in the indefinite meantime consumers need to learn to ask relevant questions about what they are buying.
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I agree with this.
I don't know if I'll get some help from them, but they should think about it. Seriously, I'm quit well known in Quebec for having my lil' Yaris before and now the FR-S. TWM is a great company that put a lot in my car to promote products. I work with a lot of track schools, I work for a well known non-profit organization, I have a LOT of friends in the DMCC (drift championship), I personnaly know, as a good friend, the owner of the DMCC. I'm not bragging about my "connexions", I'm not this type of person, I swear. I never had to do that before. But if I'm not satisfied about something, I will not stay silent.
Takeda should understand that if they want their products to have nice publicity and not being put aside by the FR-S/BRZ owners or any other cars owners, they should work with their customers and help the find solutions about the issues they have with their products.
I want to help Takeda to find a solutions to that. Because obviously, nobody will want to buy their products in countries where there is snow (which means Canada and part of United States) if it rusts that way after 3 months. Who would buy a $800 rusting exhaust when they can have something better, as the Nameless, for $500 or any other brand as Borla or HKS for the same price?
I really like the AFE Intake, this is mainly why I wanted the Takeda exhaust and why my husband thought it should be nice. I really want this be settled......
