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Originally Posted by sf5
There's also a reason why the FR-S doesn't have a turbo -- cost. I'm pretty sure FR-S owners wouldn't turn down a turbo if offered. I can't wait until the new, improved Subies are out. Talk about an "enthusiast" car, and it's basically the same engine!
I copped an '08 335i sedan with 16k for $30,000. It's not overvalued, and if I could still afford the payments, I'd take that any day over a new FR-S. $250 used JB and I've got 400 horses and torque. Lot more plastic in the FR-S. Steptronic is no joke and will put most manuals to shame.
Speed is just one aspect, like you say; however, speed is addicting, and it never hurts to be fast. Obviously, handling is just as important. The weight and RWD of the FR-S is superior to the Si, but if you're going to lease an FR-S -- not recommended -- it's a ripoff. You could get an ATS or Infiniti for almost the same price, and that's where the Si shines as the better buy.
On a side note, there's an infamous video online where the Civic beats the FR-S in a head-to-head. Yes, the FR-S was rocking stock tires, and the Civic was the HFP version. I think they should have used a stock Si, not the HFP, with the tires it comes with -- MXM4 Michelin Pilots. It would have been a more accurate and fair comparison that way. I wish mine came with upgraded tires.
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If numbers are all you're looking at then keep trying to argue these points. If you ever actually took this car on a spirited drive you would understand what most of us enjoy so much about our cars.
Unfortunately you're blinded by pure #'s and trying to quantify a beautiful driving experience.
Nothing we can obviously say or do can convince you otherwise so just let it go. You didn't "get it".