Quote:
Originally Posted by fatoni
im not trying to say that this thing isnt any more sporty than the other cars in its class. im just saying that the frs is very much targeting enthusiasts and non enthusiasts alike. im not going to argue point for point because i dont think it really matters. if anything, the boxer motor raises the roll center because it forces macpherson strut onto the car. when i think of a car that was built to a price and not really built to a price (just realized how confusing this can be) i think of things like a locost or an elise. i guess when i say built to a price, i mean built to compete in a segment
im not really comparing the 335 to the frs. i think the 335 is cool but its pretty clear that you overvalue what it is. i can assure you, the frs and 335 are from the same planet.
there are many reasons why enthusiasts prefer na. things like weight, throttle response, heat, cost, reliability are important. especially for people who actually take their car to the track. i dont think people should be concerned with how fast other cars are. sports cars arent about fast but about fun.
|
There's also a reason why the FR-S doesn't have a turbo -- cost. I'm pretty sure FR-S owners wouldn't turn down a turbo if offered. I can't wait until the new, improved Subies are out. Talk about an "enthusiast" car, and it's basically the same engine!
I copped an '08 335i sedan with 16k for $30,000. It's not overvalued, and if I could still afford the payments, I'd take that any day over a new FR-S. $250 used JB and I've got 400 horses and torque. Lot more plastic in the FR-S. Steptronic is no joke and will put most manuals to shame.
Speed is just one aspect, like you say; however, speed is addicting, and it never hurts to be fast. Obviously, handling is just as important. The weight and RWD of the FR-S is superior to the Si, but if you're going to lease an FR-S -- not recommended -- it's a ripoff. You could get an ATS or Infiniti for almost the same price, and that's where the Si shines as the better buy.
On a side note, there's an infamous video online where the Civic beats the FR-S in a head-to-head. Yes, the FR-S was rocking stock tires, and the Civic was the HFP version. I think they should have used a stock Si, not the HFP, with the tires it comes with -- MXM4 Michelin Pilots. It would have been a more accurate and fair comparison that way. I wish mine came with upgraded tires.