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Originally Posted by fatoni
there are a lot of things im now too lazy to respond to but ill hit a couple i guess. first, i think we just have different definitions of certain terms and its causing a lot of confusion. second, the at is only close to the mt time from 5-60 because it has one instead of two shifts. the miata has sold nearly a million cars. thats indicative of having a broad market. niche or not, it doesnt mean its catered purely to enthusiasts. the nsx is from a time where there werent dcts. the nsx is also a supercar so much of its appeal is also prestige so they are targeted more toward people who can afford the car rather than people who want them.
you arent surprising saying its for enthusiasts. its surprising that you are saying thats all they are targeting.
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The FR-S/BRZ is built to a price. I'm sure Subaru and Toyota would have loved to put a DCT in the car, but it wasn't in the budget, and the only fancy sequential automatic Toyota has is in the LFA. Even the IS-F uses a torque converter. The amount of time they've spent working on the 6AT and making it as little of a detraction from the car as possible instead of just dropping in a Corolla or tC autobox and calling it a day is pretty indicative of who they think is going to buy the car.
Look at the ads Toyota has put out - what do they show the car being used for? Hooning. Drifting. There's no mention of the backseat or any practical features. One commercial even alludes to the fact that it'll annoy your significant other with its immaturity. The car is marketed to people who enjoy the fun of driving.
Let's say you're an average "A to B" driver who wants a sporty inexpensive car. You don't care about FWD, AWD, RWD, or no wheel drive. You're comparing on specs, price, and practicality for a daily driver. What would make you choose the FR-S/BRZ over things like the Si, MS3, WRX, GTI, or Focus ST? Absolutely nothing. The FR-S is slower 0-60 and around a track. It has less interior room, and the interior is decidedly low-rent as compared to the GTI or MS3. There's no hatchback or four-door option. I'd suggest that the only thing that'd make you choose the FR-S over those cars is that it's more fun to drive, and if fun-to-drive is the reason you buy a car, well, you might just be an enthusiast.