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Originally Posted by mact
I had to purchase my car with the dealer's non-negotiable $500 "Paint Protection" wax.. According to them I don't have to wax my car for 7 years.
I do want to try Opticoat though.
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That whole "Non-negotiable" bit is bullshit, if you actually bothered to fight them I bet you could have got it removed or got the price of your car dropped by $500. There is no way a dealer is going to lose a sale over a coat of wax...if they wont remove it, then walk out, you'll get a phone call 15 minutes later begging for you to come back and they will drop the price. This is what happened when I bought my Tacoma, I wasn't happy with the dealer and the crap they were trying to pull, so I walked away, 30 minutes later they called my cellphone and were trying to give me the truck at $2,000 less than what they were asking before. This was in 2006 too when the new model Tacoma was just coming out and everyone wanted their hands on them so they had a high demand. When it comes down to it...dealers would rather make a sale now, rather than later.
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Originally Posted by ottopilot
I didn't knock opti coat one bit lol. I just don't like reading things like "wax is useless" when it clearly isn't.
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I do believe he meant applying wax OVER a car that has already been opticoated is useless, not wax itself is useless. Opticoat will reject the wax chemically and the wax will wash off at the first sign of water so you would have to re-wax after every rainstorm...or even puddles. That is what opti-coat is DESIGNED to do and it does it very well. Unless you're about to head out to a car show and want a bit more shine, there is no point in waxing a car that has been opticoated. Wax is great for cars that haven't been opti-coated and some people still believe the shine of wax is better than Opticoat. Opticoat does however provide far better scratch protection than wax, that is NOT debatable. Opticoat has a 9 hardness rating and is applied as a layer 2 to 3 microns thick as stated before. Wax is very soft and is only applied in about 0.2 micron layers so it doesn't really protect your car from scratches or paint swirls. To each their own!