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Originally Posted by Ryephile

Ok, so you think the spec sheet is erroneous? What grounds do you have that the torque peak is more or less than that? Are you just going off a hunch, or hope, that the peak BMEP is in the 190's "just cuz", or some assumption that there simply "must" be a noticeable delta between peak torque and peak power BMEP? I'm willing to believe you, but you're going to have to lay down something more concrete than "they did it back then with something else".

New engines are released all the time with lackluster specs despite new technology...just look at basically anything Honda has done lately. Also, discounting the ever-changing emissions regulations is at your peril, as it does make an impact to performanc



Seriously? Stop repeating what some advertisement told you. Are you saying that Ferrari, Lotus, and Porsche aren't "true sports cars"? They all have noticeably rear-biased weight distributions. That doesn't mean their polar moments aren't better [or worse] than a bloated new BMW that has a "magical" 50/50 distribution. Blurting out one spec isn't anywhere near the whole picture; go back and combine polar moments along with corner weights, CoG, fuel tank distribution, driver location, instant centers, and suspension geometries [i.e. camber curves, bump-steer, and anti-dive] to start to get a competent picture of how each car behaves. Any half-wit can get a car to balance out 50/50 static, it takes skill to make it actually handle and be communicative to the driver.

Racing for 20 years and I still read as much as I can, I think we should tell are opinion and not reply like 10 years old, I get your point . lotus or porsche or Ferrari they want the engine in the back thats how they want to design the car, mostly for Ultimate rear traction and every year with there newer car they push the engine closer to the center of the car or change to longer Wheelbase to achieve better Weight distribution. As I mentioned it doesn't mean the car will have a bad handling because of it .When you driving nissan 370z and Mazda Rx8 you will feel the difference , it doesn't mean 370z is slower car or it has bad handling or is not a sport car.