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Originally Posted by 4agze
This topic reminded me of that kid on a integra who showed up on our touge run showing off his fwd skill going down hill, we let him go on the second pass & we hear this long tire screech well here is a pics
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This was one was at the track... right!
(pssst no street racing) 
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Originally Posted by chopstickz
Let's not forget that this is a pretty heavily modified NA 4age with ~175hp, however Tsuchiya's 86 is a decent amount of lbs lighter.
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Originally Posted by fernan2
926kg vs. 1056kg, so there's no surprise here!
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Originally Posted by chopstickz
exactly
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Both start off the line side by side so power is a good match up and as mentioned, the Type in OEM form is a good piece but has some upgrades too (listen to the idle).
True that the AE86 is lighter, by like 300 lbs but the advantage is due those better drive. It's easier to push rather then to pull. Look at 2:45 at the double apex and how much time and drive the Type is losing and then to get on the gas so late.
Here is another example with a Civic Type R! CTR, has a much better jump but the exit drive is what kills it b/c of the oversteer.
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1
With drivetrain losses being less in a fwd car, I'd say both are fairly evenly matched. Honda's R cars.... most of their sporty cars in fact, are tuned to oversteer. It'd likely come down to driver ability on anything but a straight road. I know everyone likes to bash Honda because of the whole stigma to them, but guess what? As awesome a car as the FR-S is going to be, it's likely gonna fall victim to the same mess of ricers.
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+1 esp with the steady flow of newbs posting up new threads about the same shit w/out even searching.