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Old 11-04-2011, 07:31 PM   #101
fatoni
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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner View Post
2002-2005 were bad times too, it may not have affected you but it affected others. Maybe the statistics don't show it to a certain degree either but it wasn't a great economy.

I'm not sure if you mean that Miatas were being had for 20k or being sold for 25k. I do know they were selling for 21k with options or get near private sale dollar on your trade-in.

People have caused a buzz about Toyota helping make a sports car. Get this though this is Subaru's engineering piece, they borrowed DI technology from Toyota just like other manufactures borrow their hybrid system. Yamaha has worked with a multitude of companies too, not just Toyota. So in essence this is Subaru's sports car with borrowed technology.

Toyota is the marketer, designer, and re-badger. I'm not trying to start a war but it is fact. This venture is kinda like the "you can give a man a fish but if you teach him how to fish he'll have plenty to eat for a life time" saying. Well Subaru gave Toyota a fish and during the process Subaru learned how to fish more efficiently for a life time. At the end of it Toyota still doesn't know how to build a proper sports car. -Also meaning now they'll have higher torque fuel efficient AWD cars like the new 2012 DI Impreza.

You know sales might work out because Toyota/Scion are not alone in this fight. The BRZ, STI, and future race program will surely help boost sales for all makes.
i dont care about any of these internet wars and im sure they will happen. trying to be civil, i disagree to the fact that toyota doesnt know how to build sports cars. they havent in years true but i could argue the same for subaru. its not hard to say that a 3300 lb awd sedan is not a sports car. depending on definitions, subaru has never built a car as sporty as cars that would come towards the bottom of toyotas sports car lineage. to each his own i guess
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