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I think some people are misunderstanding what some people meant about having good usable torque. A car with weak torque will get the job done on regular roads but for some people it can be a pain in the ass especially if you have passengers and other shit in the car. I bought my GF a 2000 civic and I hate driving that POS. Feels like im destroying the car just to accelerate and the car is light(2350 lbs) with 107lb ft of torque.
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