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Originally Posted by Dezoris
S2000 was a great car, still is. I was right there when the car was released, and back in 1999 and the top complaint was the power and straight line speed, aside from bump steer/oversteer.
Same with the RX8. That was just beat to death in the press.
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S2000 was 32,000 in 1999 which today would land somewhere between 35,000 and 44,000. Even in the final year, the RX-8 was over 40,000 new up here and gets EvoX level MPG at around 19.
The FRS is under 26,000, gets 30mpg and you can stuff a bike into it (try that with the GC and it's non-existent pass-through). Cost of track consumables like brake pads and tires is half of a mustangs cost.
But I'll play the "what-if" game once: If the FRS had another 50hp, let's say that would add 5K to the price. Now you're in a new segment, have to upgrade the interior to keep pace. Oh, now you have to upgrade the wheels/tires. Ah, now the ICE isn't up to snuff, better improve that for the new segment you're playing in. It's crazy. Z4, 335s, STIs, Caymans, 370Z, Mustang GT, etc etc - then you'd still complain that it was underpowered for the new segment it's in. And the 20-25K crowd is back to Civics/Corollas/Sentras with no good rwd minimalist entry.
Toyburu took some power money (and ice and interior), and put it into the chassis and suspension. The Veloster got some engine money and some body money with no chassis spend. It's that simple. You can't have it all without paying for it. And even if you do pay for more, it can still end up being incredibly dull (Mustang GT, BMW 330, etc).