[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

In less than 25 seconds I did a national search on Autotrader and Cars.com and found 400 listings, there were no Hatchbacks listed for under 26k new. (One Sedan at 25k) And in a large market like Chicagoland, you are not going to get one for much less than 500 under MSRP.



0-60 is not really my concern, like I said most of the time it is ok. But when you really get down to it it's just a sheep in wolfs clothing. It looks the part and maybe in other markets like Europe or Japan it's more than powerful. But in America our mass market ho-hum cars from pretty much every company will wipe it up the car in a straight line. And in terms of overall grip on paper the FR-S also does not fair to well even against hot hatches in most tests. It's a car like you said needs about 5k to be an actual sports car. That's what I am getting at.

As mentioned I have been through sports cars that are toys, did not want that again which is why I went this route. It's a stop gap car to fill the the time from when either release an STI/TRD model or Mazda or Honda build their own version of this car.



Yeah Scion owns the transport market in the city for sure, never thought of that. I don't care about the badge but I know plenty of people cant wait to rip off the "tag". Tks

dont look to autotrader. its not really possible to negotiate a price that way. plus, you still found a wrx for under 26k.