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Originally Posted by Dezoris
In less than 25 seconds I did a national search on Autotrader and Cars.com and found 400 listings, there were no Hatchbacks listed for under 26k new. (One Sedan at 25k) And in a large market like Chicagoland, you are not going to get one for much less than 500 under MSRP.
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THANK YOU!!! Exactly right. Not sure where these people's heads are... But I can guess.
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Originally Posted by Dezoris
0-60 is not really my concern, like I said most of the time it is ok. But when you really get down to it it's just a sheep in wolfs clothing. It looks the part and maybe in other markets like Europe or Japan it's more than powerful. But in America our mass market ho-hum cars from pretty much every company will wipe it up the car in a straight line. And in terms of overall grip on paper the FR-S also does not fair to well even against hot hatches in most tests. It's a car like you said needs about 5k to be an actual sports car. That's what I am getting at.
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Not sure I agree there.
According to Edmunds regarding the FRS:
Scion FRS STOCK:
Skid-pad:
0.89g
Slalom:
67.5mph
Scion FRS Upgraded Tires ONLY (Yokohama Advan Neova AD08 sized 245/40)
Skid-pad:
1.0g
Slalom:
70.3mph
So how does that compare to other sports cars? (All Stats are from the Sands Mechanical Museum)
The Z06:
Skid-pad:
0.94g
Slalom:
68.5mph
Porsche 911 GT3:
Skid-pad:
0.92g
Slalom:
68.7mph
Viper SRT-10
Skid-pad:
1.04g
Slalom:
68.6mph
Will the FRS compare in 0-60? NO WAY! But in 60-0.... Hell yes! I am not saying it is the most amazing car on the planet, but at 25K I think those numbers are impressive. People keep saying the car doesn't add up on paper and I just don't get it.
Based on these two data points the closest competitor is the Lotus Elise with a skid-pad of
.98g and a slalom speed of
71.1mph. Again, not bad if you ask me.
I say it is a sports car just as it comes from the factory. Suspension, brakes, forced induction, and taking some weight off will just turn it in to a better sports car.
My 2 cents. If I am delusional please let me know. Input welcome.