[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Mango22

I have a feeling you need it more than me, Woody.

Originally Posted by SubieNate

I think it's silly to worry about a car's "sports car" reputation. I don't street race. I don't drive my car for other people to see me in it and I don't need a car to reassure me that my penis is teh largerest. My last car was a 140 hp Impreza L wagon. I modded everything on that car but the engine. Bigger brakes, custom struts, swaybars, interior stuff, the list goes on. I had a ball wringing the piss out of that little engine around backroads with hardly any worry that I was going to overcook it.

Sometimes driving a car to it's limits is satisfying even when those limits are low. Sometimes it's good to keep those limits relatively low so that you CAN push them just a bit. I think this was the reasoning behind the 200 hp thing.

There are a number of sporty, sub $30k cars that would get spanked by most v6 minivans in a straight line. I'd still take any one of them over any minivan. Because I don't race on the street and the amount of straight line fun you can have on the street is incredibly limited.

You said that a car needs to be able to get to the next light quickly. Frankly, for some of us, it doesn't.

That said, once my warranty is up I think a custom SC setup may be in my future. Because racecar.

You make a lot of good points, namely those about the limits of the car.