[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Jordo, the 'babying' comment was in relation to scapes post of "I'd baby that car." Well I wouldn't. Now, point out to me anywhere where I said he was babying that car down the canyon?

I actually wasn't directing that comment at you or anyone in particular, but since you brought it up...

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

See how its done? Its a video showing off the road, if anything. He's not really pushing the car hard at all.

Not pushing it hard at all is essentially equivalent to "babying"...

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

I wouldn't baby it if I did a build like that. I'd baby it if it were a garage queen. If you're gonna 'build' a car, especially a lotus, then use it properly, or be forever scorned into the corner of 'posers'.

That aside, all this speculation, maybe he's never driven the road before? Granted there were a few moments in the video where its quite obvious he was taking it sleazy. But if it was his first trip down the canyon, yeah, I'd take it a bit easy too.

Here you are clearly implying Frank is babying the car (your word) whereas you would not.

Furthermore, you insinuate that Frank should be "scorned" as a poseur for his driving. You do allow that if it's first time on that road, his "babying" is forgivable -- however, it's not, so that uses up the allotted excuse...

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

My 'critique' was aimed at the message of babying that car. All I pointed out was, if you're gonna make it look like a real man's car, you might as well show that you can fill the boots, so to speak. I wasn't by any means calling Ronin a 'poser'. He took it to the canyon and had his fun with it. Thats more than most richie rich poser bitches can say about their expensive toys. Thats more than I've seen most of said people do, personally, having lived my HS/early college years around one of the richest areas in the U.S. They're everywhere around here.

@scape, its a matter of opinion, thats all. If i'm going to build a car to perform, I'm going to push it. Otherwise, whats the point of pioneering performance limits on a car? If I wanted to rub it with a terry cloth all day and try to get hoes to sit on my lap, I'd just strut around in factory trim and watch 'em flock. If I'm gonna build a car to perform, then I'm gonna put it on stage and see what it can do.

Here you backpeddle on the poseur insinuation, but imply that Frank isn't man enough to drive his car as it was intended -- ouch.

Funny enough, Frank totally ignored your commentary and instead went 12 rounds with another person and I did not single you out in my last post -- so why are you getting so defensive?