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Old 01-30-2013, 12:56 PM   #30
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As stated, we have a highly intelligent crowd for peer-review. Thanks for signing up to make a post, Josh.

I pulled most of the info from a guide found here: LINK to PDF

First point. Here's the traditional formula for a spring-mass oscillator:
F = sqrt(spring constant / mass)

It will output in rad/s. Radians are wondeful for Bode plots, but not good for normal people... so 1/2/pi = 0.159 is the conversion factor for Hz.

Second point may be very valid. It's a fine handwaving argument, but it may not be correct. I picked that up from a random forum post on the miata forums. Let's find out:

Tire dynamics should minimally affect suspension dynamics.
A decade of frequency separation is considered sufficient.
F_tire > 10 * F_susp
sqrt(tire rate / unsprung mass) > 10 * sqrt(spring rate / sprung mass)
If both values are more than one,
tire rate / unsprung mass > 100 * spring rate / sprung mass
tire rate / spring rate > 100 * unsprung mass / sprung mass

for our example:
6500 / 131 > 100 * 83 / 618
49.6 > 13.43 --> sufficiently separated

I guess I should amend the above statement. Thanks for pointing it out!

Continuing this thought:
If we calculate the max spring rate that can be used without being affected by tire dynamics (at stock pressures):
max front wheel rate = 484 lbs/in
max front spring rate = 526 lbs/in
max rear wheel rate = 422 lbs/in
max rear spring rate is = 548 lbs/in

At autox pressures, max spring rates would be 809 (front) and 843 (rear). In metric, that's 14.2k and 14.8k. Interesting, not that anyone would want to run them that stiff anyways.

Last edited by Shankenstein; 01-30-2013 at 01:33 PM.
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