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Old 01-21-2013, 11:28 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
Very interesting thread!
Thanks a bunch for lining up all the facts and numbers

The OP question was:


Personally, and selfishly; NO. I don't want to see that.
It'd reduce the second-hand value of the GT86 I have ordered and will pay full Norwegian taxes for.
(I may want to sell it at some point, although it's hard to imagine now.)
And I like the GT86 just as it is, if anything I'd like just a little bit more power.

I do, however, think Toyota/Subaru would be able to sell 2-3 times as many of these cars in Norway if they did this. Easily.
And I would like to see more of my fellow Norwegians being able to enjoy these machines.
If I had bought the car I would probably have the same viewpoint as you!

I do believe the probability of a more efficient "standard" model is close to zero. But a hybrid version could be something else...

Personally, I believe the horsepower is ok, and I would not wish to get higher HP taxes either. Its the limited torque that is the problem.
The Norwegian tax system is just working against NA engines with some power.

The need for less power would not make a huge difference in terms of taxes, especially not in other countries. So thread title should really be "wishes for a low CO2 version....."
The need for less CO2 is the main thing. Several countries would benefit from that. Problem is, with a NA 2.0 and "sporty" gear ratio that will not happen.
It needs to be turbo or use some hybrid technology.
Based on what the chief engineer says. Turbo seems to be out of the question due to lack of throttle response, so I will hope for some efficient hybrid in the future....
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