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Old 01-18-2013, 10:17 AM   #61
jmaryt
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Originally Posted by Sport-Tech View Post
Actually reports are that the gearing in the auto (which is much higher - 5th in the auto is actually a longer gear than 6th in the manual) is not ideal for acceleration even under way because the wider ratios result in the engine rpm dropping into the 4-4.8K "torque trough" on upshift even when you shift at redline, something that does not happen on the manual. Wish they would just use the same ratios as found on the manual box, but apparently that would have cost more as the current auto is a (slightly modified) off-the-shelf part.
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Originally Posted by Captain Insano View Post
Hmmm, well I have not heard definitively from any of the shops that have autos if they are seeing that (shops like P&L Mortorsports, FA20club.com, etc that actually have autos for shop cars) 10whp loss you claim. Let's just say I'm very skeptical, but open minded...

Also, Sport-Tech is right, the gearing is more noticeable in higher gears, but in the lower gears, not as much. The lower gears are the gears you will use on a track 99% of the time and the gears that matter for performance. I think the 5-60 (no launch) motortrend test between the two is telling, only one tenth of a second difference in acceleration with no launch required. But yes, I did say 2-6 would be nearly identical and I should have said "2-4 will be very similar".
this is good to know,because the seat of my pants (where it counts) tells me the car's got plenty of "juice" from a dead launch,and i experienced no "dead" spots as the revs climbed.for some reason,i really liked the rev matching
as you down shift. THIS car does not suffer with this auto tranny.
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