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Kostamojen · 10-27-2011, 05:09 AM

Oh, and as for the price/weight, I'll say this...

If he test drove the auto, that is 100lbs on the manual car right there. Add another 50lbs for up-level model wheels/accessories/etc. (Power seats = weight, foglights = weight, more speakers/better stereo = weight, etc.) and thats 150lbs. I've been through all the factory service manuals for Subaru's over the years (yes, ALL of them) and made a list of all the curb weights for all the models and such over the years, its not abnormal to see 100-200lbs differences in models just due to accessories.

I still think as most of the folks here do that the car will weigh in the 2600lbs range. IF there is a de-contented version (which I hope there will be... Type-RA version anyone???) then it could shed more weight with smaller wheels, no stereo (2004 STI did that here in the states), no spare, no rear seats, etc. it will for sure be 2600lbs or less.

As for the price... $28-30k FULLY LOADED I do expect, but hopefully that includes huge brakes, upgraded suspension, NAV, etc. But if the base model for the Scion isn't close to $20k and for the Subaru close to 22-22k, then I will be upset.

This is after all basically a parts-bin sports car, and if they CAN'T offer one for close to $20k and it stays around $25k, I hope in the future they consider an even less powerful non-DI model with even less content... I have zero interest in a fully loaded $30k Sports car.

10-27-2011, 05:09 AM	#335
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s)	Oh, and as for the price/weight, I'll say this... If he test drove the auto, that is 100lbs on the manual car right there. Add another 50lbs for up-level model wheels/accessories/etc. (Power seats = weight, foglights = weight, more speakers/better stereo = weight, etc.) and thats 150lbs. I've been through all the factory service manuals for Subaru's over the years (yes, ALL of them) and made a list of all the curb weights for all the models and such over the years, its not abnormal to see 100-200lbs differences in models just due to accessories. I still think as most of the folks here do that the car will weigh in the 2600lbs range. IF there is a de-contented version (which I hope there will be... Type-RA version anyone???) then it could shed more weight with smaller wheels, no stereo (2004 STI did that here in the states), no spare, no rear seats, etc. it will for sure be 2600lbs or less. As for the price... $28-30k FULLY LOADED I do expect, but hopefully that includes huge brakes, upgraded suspension, NAV, etc. But if the base model for the Scion isn't close to $20k and for the Subaru close to 22-22k, then I will be upset. This is after all basically a parts-bin sports car, and if they CAN'T offer one for close to $20k and it stays around $25k, I hope in the future they consider an even less powerful non-DI model with even less content... I have zero interest in a fully loaded $30k Sports car.