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Originally Posted by Supermassive
I think you'll be equally amazed by P&Ls quality, all I have to say is that everything is perfect on it, the welds, the coating, the fittings...everything oozes quality. Now the turbo placement might not be for you but I like the location alot!
As for other bits and pieces you need for a turbo kit: Full exhaust, EcuTek cable/license/tune, Wideband A/F gauge/sensor, electronic boost controller (some kits come with a manual boost controller but thats not ideal), gauge mounts, fresh oil, performance clutch, oil cooler, and fans. Thats just off the top of my head. Sure you can slap any of these kits on and it willrun, but you'll end up needing most of this inthe long run.
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Completely agree. You may or may not want to run an AFR sensor if your car's been tuned safely by a third party but it can't hurt.
Anyone in their right mind who wants to run F/I will want to monitor boost, water temp, oil temp and oil pressure, so right there you'll need gauges, sensors and bungs for all that plus possibly something like the Defi link to control all the gauges. Adds up.
Getting into EBCs vs. MBCs is where it gets tricky - the EBCs can really improve boost response and control over an MBC but you need to buy, install and set up the EBC and then go about tuning the car because the boost will come on differently, hence you need a retune for that to stay safe.
And yeah, not having a full 3 inch header back exhaust would leave a whole bunch of HP and torque on the table.
All of this suggests that a custom tune will also be needed to make sure it's all running efficiently and safely so there's the tuning hardware plus tuning fees to consider.
If folks choose to run these kits as-is maybe the base maps would be sufficient but that'd be a bit half assed IMHO. If you're going to spend thousands on boosting your car it seems wiser to go the extra mile to make sure it's 100% safe and you can keep tabs on things to avoid blowing motors and such.
Also concerned about the heat issues on track and additional mods that might be needed. With no gauges to keep track of stuff you'd risk not realizing anything's wrong until it's too late.
Source: Had a highly tuned Evo that ran reliably on track for 3 years since we did everything very thoroughly...while others blew motors and turbos.
These kits are a good start though. Awaiting guinea pigs & hope folks will do it right so we see happy stories instead of a whole bunch of 'crisis' threads in the future.
