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Originally Posted by 2forme
Gem, the only thing proven by this kit so far is 209/165...after a 15% boost for correction.
Why don't we wait until we see 2 or 3 third party dynos (done at shops that don't have any financial interest in Vortech or this kit) before we get into this debate?
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c'mon guys, you know I am not that petty about HP, and I really like the AVO kit, but Like i have said before built my way it will cost more than this SC
I've never been known to say VORTECH is the most powerful, highest HP or TQ. I put reliability 1st, and let that define the right power range, on stock internals.
I see the joy of pushing 15psi thru this motor, but thats just not me.
I look past my day one, looking at day two already
what is next?
is there a path?
what will it cost?
is that path rational, safe reasonable?
sound?
I dont want cost prohibitive either
I am very impressed with AVO's 230whp (276 crank hp) and 197 ft/lbs of torque at 5-6 psi on 92 octane gas is what the AVO kit spec'd
Is it ready for PHX heat on the track in its current form? I'm not really sure of that one...but it IS low psi, when compared to what we are talking here-9-10psi...
further,
I have NO reason to suspect that 9psi from Vortech will be anything less than fucking stellar at sealevel all tuned up. I do think it will put the AVO far in the rear view mirror-its almost 40% more psi outta the box with a very minor mod. Pulleys are NOT expensive, man. The potential on tap is huge, if the 12-13psi is what you want, its here, in one box from Vortech.
I also dont think AVO type turbo kits can offer the "just add a pulley" upgrade path, that upgradeability will cost much more, bigger turbo can mean bigger IC, difference in piping tubing plumbing etc. I am not taking stabs or jabs at anyone, just citing a factual difference in upgradability there, with regards to cost and power output. could it be that bigger turbo = more heat? nah...
same with Innovate, I like their kit, but really without a IC, you cant "just add a pulley" there, so when you start to look at the whole solution in more costly than its "how I get it day one" incantation, the players lineup changes fast
All I need to do is add a pulley, then do something (that I cant share yet but its a boon), and then add injectors, and I will still be ahead moneywise , of the guys trying to work out the added costs for their stage2+/3 setups, need to install other shit, and wont deal with air to water heat soak , or overheated oil, ever. Clear.
If I ever want a higher duty compressor, they have one, same exact form factor etc, hence my decision to go vortech. no added oil heat, motor heat, water heat, just more boost, lil more drag, it was NOT price dictated, fwiw. Those seemed like the right trade offs for me, on the path I am on with my BRZ(s)
go buy what you want, no skin off my back, just sharing the facts pertintent to my kit, if I am wrong about the other guys stuff, Its not intentional.
we all have decisions we will make and drive and live with, make the one you chose a choice you make knowing the facts , the present day 1 install and the future path to day two(representing the next stage)
My path is LUCID , hows yours?