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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
I believe Subaru on this one. Toyota is better at sports car styling than Subaru so it makes sense that Toyota did the styling and Subaru had to do everything else.
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Guy. FR sports cars/ sport sedans/GTs. Toyota; 2000GT, Sport 800 (boxer rwd no less), T/RA2x-T/RA6x Celicas, 4 Generations of Supras, AE86 Corolla GT(s), Chaser Tourer V, Altezza/IS, Soarer/SC, Aristo/GS, LFmtherfkingA....
Subaru; um... hmmmm...
Yes. Makes complete sense that Subaru did everything but the styling.
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Originally Posted by Dimman
And all Lotus cars are joint ventures with Camry-by-the-billions Toyota, so..?
Have they personally driven the car to justify their logic of comparing it to a Lotus?
Anti-Toyota article, is all.
Matador, trolling?
(PS, I don't really hate Subaru. More of a reverse demonstration of how their analogy dis-respects Toyota. But the "We did it all!" attitude pisses me off.)
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So not trolling. Found the article this morning and was quite disgusted actually. These guys are behaving like spoiled fucking children, and ***if*** the journalism is accurate, they are downright lying. Even on the remote chance this were true, the version that the PROJECT's HEAD ENGINEER gave, was in no way damaging to subaru, they have no reason to be asses about it, and it befuddles me why they would chose to damage their relationship with the guys that own 17% of their company like that. ****s.
The last few weeks have been of the FML...nay... FMELL variety, so I really wasn't in the mood to say more.
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Originally Posted by WingsofWar
this thread makes me sad
even if the car handles great, it needs to do all that at a price point. and 28k is not it. especially at that level.
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Yeah. Fuck $28k. Better come with a turbo and the better side of 270hp for that price. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by pastuch
ROFL! Americans complaining about income tax... oh my god. Try living in Canada. We pay 30 to 40%. If you make more than 100k it's 40% income tax minimum, significantly higher in some provinces.
FR-S/BRZ will be a little more expensive here too likely.
Epic-fail: If you live in the province of Quebec, every dollar you make over $83000 is taxed at 53%. I'm not kidding.
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Wow. Fuck working in Canada. That's some serious ass rape-age.
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Originally Posted by MF_DEUCE
EDIT: yea, these numbers seem fishy. hopefully get affirmation from TAS.
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TAS = Tokyo Auto Salon, which is in January. You are looking for the Tokyo motor show there champ.
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Originally Posted by madfast
I said it all along. Subaru is salty about how everyone think this is a toyota led car.
and yet ALL the evidence leads to toyota having a heavy hand in its design/engineering. its as simple as this: they say they did all the testing, and yet this past weekend who drove the car around the Nring? Gazoo racing is related to subaru and not toyota all of a sudden? 
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