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Red5 · 01-02-2013, 04:05 AM

Okay, I know I'm not an Aussie, but I know what a ute is. THIS IS NOT A TRUCK!

I know the arguments for or against TSC/VSC, but saying "my ute handles shitty in adverse conditions means every other rwd vehicle handles the same in similar conditions" is just as stupid. Utes/ trucks have a weight distribution of around 70/30 at best, so yeah, in rain and snow there is no grip on the back end and spinning is super easy. The frs (for example) has a 53/47, so there is substantially more grip in wet weather and snow. Is it un-spinnable? No; but its not like you're automatically going to be pirouetting through intersections because you dared to turn off the magic 'crash avoidance' computers. There are extremes in everything, and there is a certain amount of risk we all assume when driving a sportscar. If you choose to drive with the nannies off, feel free. If you crash with said nannies off, you get to live (or not) with the consequences. But saying that turning the nannies off automatically makes you a hoon and a wannabe racer and a danger to society is ridiculous.

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01-02-2013, 04:05 AM	#78
Red5 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Places Posts: 110 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Okay, I know I'm not an Aussie, but I know what a ute is. THIS IS NOT A TRUCK! I know the arguments for or against TSC/VSC, but saying "my ute handles shitty in adverse conditions means every other rwd vehicle handles the same in similar conditions" is just as stupid. Utes/ trucks have a weight distribution of around 70/30 at best, so yeah, in rain and snow there is no grip on the back end and spinning is super easy. The frs (for example) has a 53/47, so there is substantially more grip in wet weather and snow. Is it un-spinnable? No; but its not like you're automatically going to be pirouetting through intersections because you dared to turn off the magic 'crash avoidance' computers. There are extremes in everything, and there is a certain amount of risk we all assume when driving a sportscar. If you choose to drive with the nannies off, feel free. If you crash with said nannies off, you get to live (or not) with the consequences. But saying that turning the nannies off automatically makes you a hoon and a wannabe racer and a danger to society is ridiculous. Sent from...somewhere?