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Old 12-18-2012, 05:30 PM   #99
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Originally Posted by RaceR View Post
I totally agree 110% with what you say. I find my self nodding.. yes, yes.. So true, so right..
OMGs, I have been agreed with on the internet! This is unprecedented

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Ill just say one thing about the stuff you said.
yes, you would like the car better if it was a NA 2.0.
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The contingent that aim for engines producing half the amount of CO2 of a typical 2.0L NA engine.
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The efficient engines are a part of BMWs success over here. All competition basically have turbo engines. They would not have a chance if they went the normal NA route. Its just the way things are in EU. Some countries are worse than others. Im from one of the worst, I know..
OK, 1.5 turbo

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Here is proof. Ill show some insanity:
BMW E81 116D (diesel, the work of satan, and a car that is quite "heavy" considering the 1.gen 1-series was not light and diesel engines add to that)
In 2009-2011 those engines had 115hp. But there was also a 90hp version. 90hp BMW in a new 2011 model BMW is something for you US guys to chew on.. :P
Yeah, I don't think that'd go over well here in the states...
I'm not a fan of diesels, anyway, though some over here are. Power/weight like you suggest, it just isn't there. But a highish boost 1.5 gasoline engine, could make upwards of 300hp and be quite efficient, no?

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Id much rather do that on F20/F21 114I which have a much better chassis, and a petrol engine. But there are issues with the new BMWs.
1- Have not come across a way to get engine mapping into sport mode when DSC off. Default is comfort, which is not responsive at all.
I don't know if I get what "sport mode" is. I want the throttle to open half way when my foot is halfway down, and ALL the way when my foot is all the way down. Really hate the idea of a "sport mode" that just increases throttle opening per foot position, basically only makes it harder to modulate!

Unless this "sport mode" is something else...

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2- No chip to make it into a more powerful 118I. Yes, I could just buy the 118I and maybe do a little tuning if desirable.
3-E-LSD are activated when DSC is off. It would probably not interfer with when a proper locking diff are installed, but Id feel better not running into the risk.
I think I'd have to disable any "e-lsd" feature if I had a REAL limited slip.

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A dream OEM car would probably be more of hardcore "baby" m-car with around 230hp, and 4 usable seats (not much larger than the 86) Due to taxes, I would have chosen turbo and minimzed lag as much as possible. 1.5l high reving 3-cylinder engine (or some light weight KERS hybrid stuff that the GT86 might get). Give me a OS-giken style diff with 100% locking capacity too. It could be the baby M2 CSL, just like the E30 318is was the baby "m" car..
Sounds great to me! Rather have N/A, but that's ok

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The only reason why 3-series are so fat is because of its size and engine, and not focusing enough on weight from the start.
F21 M135I weight 290 pounds more than F21 118I.
A performance 118is/218is (CSL) could easily get down to 2700pounds. A 2-series could as well if made right..
There are so many opportunities.
Don't let me get optimistic, we both know it ain't happening

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I have also dreamed about a Z2, maybe named Z22. A compact Z-series car with 2+2 layout. That would not mess up the normal BMW lineup.
The car would be a mix of a 218IS CSL and a GT86.


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BMW will probably make a Z2 with fwd.
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