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Originally Posted by RaceR
As for the company that built reasonable size/weight cars.. it is still there... Cars have just changed..
BMW still use the same recipe they used when making the E30s.
-Typical family car sized car, check
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The E30 was significantly smaller and lighter-weight than a "Typical family car sized car"! Latest 3-series, definitely "family car" size and weight...
However, LONG gone are the days when you could equip the lowliest model (318i in the states) with a limited slip diff. Now you *have* to have an "M" car to get what I consider a *requirement* for any rwd car with sporting pretensions. And on top of that, instead of trying to give us a legitimately small and lightweight rwd platform, they're going fwd instead!
Excellent slalom and skidpad numbers, sure. But the additional size and mass subtract tremendously from the fun of the driving experience.
I'd like the cars a lot better if a 2.0 liter N/A four would be a sufficient powerplant.
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-More premium compared to average cars, check
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This part remains: they're definitely priced for the more affluent. Regardless of the $$$, I'd much rather they made smaller/simpler/lighter cars, which would require less powerful engines, smaller brakes, smaller wheels, smaller tires.
This is NOT the same company that gave us the 2002 and the E30 M3... This is a purveyor of oversized/overwrought/overweight luxury cars with a few minor nods to "sportiness".
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M3 is not a buick in my eyes.
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OK, Camaro then. It weighs as much as the newer, massive, bricklike Camaro. The E30 M3 weighed about 1000 lb. less! Huge strides made by BMW, in exactly the wrong direction
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If the M5 is a German Buick then I would not mind having a German Buick in my garage..
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I wouldn't mind it, but I'd rather have a proper sports sedan than a massive luxobarge. Honestly, I think the E28 M5 is a cooler car (though obviously a lot slower in any contest). Just like I think the E30 M3 is a cooler car than the current 3700+ lb. monstrosity.
The current BMW lineup is all but irrelevant to me. I could easily afford one, but I'd honestly rather have an FR-S or BRZ. BMW could learn a lot from these cars...