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Originally Posted by ZDan
All those models, and no place for anything remotely as cool as a 2002tii or E30 M3? But with niches for giant, ugly, high-c.g. SUV-like sedan and a hulking 4-door laughably called "Gran Turismo" and "Gran Coupe"?!
BMW can suck it.
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I agree with you on the 2002tii and E30 M3. I would love to see a BMW made more like those cars, or more like the GT86.
I think its a shame BMW have dropped out on LSD as an option on lower powered models. And the stupid comfort mode when turning off all electronics.
That is the top of stupidity!
There are many other things I could say. But I think they have the potential to make some good cars in the near future when looking at the 2-series.
But lets not forget. What have become of the 3-series now? It have gotten big and fatter. But look at the modern day rivals. Its all the same for them. BMW are not to be blamed for making their best selling car fit the modern day safety regulations and still be "bigger and better". A trend we see in Europe, but that you Americans know all about..
A new model should not be smaller. Usually, larger and "better".
You will not be able to buy a new sedan with the size and design of the E30 due to saftey regulations. A VW Golf MK1 GTI (rabbit) have gotten large and fat as well. All cars have. Dont blame BMW for following the evolution.
Which cars today are really comparable to 2002tii and E30 M3? Those cars had 4 usable seats. Atleast way better than the 2+2 in GT86.
From BMW, the closest thing you will get E30 are the new 1 and 2 series. The new "F" series models are actually lighter than previous generation. If they are too comfortable and heavy, rip out all the sound isolation, airbags, climate control etc.. etc.. It will get a decent weight. I know you don't get them in the US. (2-series will be there with larger engines) But the new 1-series with 1.6 turbo only weight 50-60kg more than a fully equipped GT86 as far as I can read from the specs.
Compare Subaru Impreza in the UK vs BMW sales.
BMW 3 Series
34,340
BMW 1 Series
25,128
Subaru Impreza
173
Impreza was an icon. 10 years ago the 1-series did not even exist.. Now they sell more 1-series in 2 days than all Imprezas sold over a whole year!
Sadly to say, but if BMW were just as focused on E30s as we enthusiasts were, they would probably not do that well.
For a car manufacturer, sales and profit are the two things that keep them alive.
2-series M-coupe will probably be the closest thing to a modern day E30. Especially if it gets 4-cylinders and focus more on weight.