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FRSjeff · 12-07-2012, 01:53 AM

I want to first say I love the way this car drives, feels and looks!

I do have some questions for both Tada-San AND Scion/Toyota regarding the quality/reliability of my FR-S:

1- Why did at least a handful of models have this "check engine light" issue? This is really not very good "Toyota Quality;" would you agree?
Mine is one of these that was affected; it was remedied with a new ECU, but, I'm concerned about its long term reliability and driving satisfaction; so far, I'm not really satisfied as it still idles strange (dipping and somewhat shaky, some of the time.) Is a permanent fix coming to give me confidence that this car can and will run SMOOTHLY for years to come?

2- Another quality issue is the very annoying "popping/crackle" sound from the rear. It's also kind of embarrassing when my passengers ask "what's the weird sound back there?" Subaru has a TSB addressing the issue, Scion/Toyota does NOT. Is Scion/Toyota going to very soon fix this noisy problem in my car? I really hope so!

3- My third concern is probably more directed to just Scion. Is there going to soon be a SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED update for the BeSpoke iPhone app for the "premium" stereo unit that I paid an extra $845 for??

This car would be nearly perfect if these issues were fixed.

Thank you for your consideration!

12-07-2012, 01:53 AM	#159
FRSjeff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S (red manual) Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 123 Thanks: 181 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I want to first say I love the way this car drives, feels and looks! I do have some questions for both Tada-San AND Scion/Toyota regarding the quality/reliability of my FR-S: 1- Why did at least a handful of models have this "check engine light" issue? This is really not very good "Toyota Quality;" would you agree? Mine is one of these that was affected; it was remedied with a new ECU, but, I'm concerned about its long term reliability and driving satisfaction; so far, I'm not really satisfied as it still idles strange (dipping and somewhat shaky, some of the time.) Is a permanent fix coming to give me confidence that this car can and will run SMOOTHLY for years to come? 2- Another quality issue is the very annoying "popping/crackle" sound from the rear. It's also kind of embarrassing when my passengers ask "what's the weird sound back there?" Subaru has a TSB addressing the issue, Scion/Toyota does NOT. Is Scion/Toyota going to very soon fix this noisy problem in my car? I really hope so! 3- My third concern is probably more directed to just Scion. Is there going to soon be a SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED update for the BeSpoke iPhone app for the "premium" stereo unit that I paid an extra $845 for?? This car would be nearly perfect if these issues were fixed. Thank you for your consideration!