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Old 12-03-2012, 02:16 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Justin.b View Post
I'd have to agree with him on that. Toyota *today* has been entirely full of fail on any performance car since the Supra. The MR-S was a flop, the Celica was a flop, the LFA was a flop.

I can't think of a car company less likely to deliver something like the ft86 than Toyota.

I'm glad it's here, but Toyota's own internal corporate culture makes it very difficult to expect great things from them. They don't take risks anymore. I had bet that the ft86 was going to end up weighing 3300 pounds and would be fitted with Camry seats. I'm pleasantly surprised, but it's very un-toyota.

-Justin
performance cars or sports cars? the frs is a huge failure performance wise.
calling the mrs and the celica flops is a bit of an overstatement dont you think? the things lasted 25 years. like them or not the mr2 is in every sense a sports car and they didnt stop selling those until 2007.

the lfa is a flop just like the frs is a flop. they ignored chasing figures on a track and spent all their time and effort making a car that feels alive. subaru has never made a car that feels like a sports car. my friends old 450hp sti feels downright pedestrian compared a stock mr2. just because toyota makes their people movers like they are people movers it doesnt mean they will make their sports cars like them. just keep in mind that like it or not, toyotas last sports car they made was over 1000 lbs lighter than the last one subaru made.
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